Final 9th Ave. Park design can't please everyone
Most of the neighbors at the third and final design meeting for the new Ninth Avenue Park were happy with the proposal. But, debate still arose over who the space should be geared toward, especially conflict regarding play equipment versus a P-Patch.
The Seattle Parks Department and Site Workshop presented their final concept, Magic and Mystery, for the park on Ninth Avenue Northwest between Northwest 70th Street and Northwest 73rd Street Jan. 28. It was culled from a mass of neighborhood input during two previous meetings.
The design features a 20-plot P-Patch in the northeast corner.
Directly to the west of that is what Site Workshops' Clayton Beaudoin called a secret garden, which is envisioned as a quiet, contemplative space centered around foundation walls remaining on the property.
The center of the park is dedicated to an open lawn that measures approximately 55 feet by 80 feet.
Next to the open space is a community plaza. Poles in the plaza area could be used to hang material for shelter or a movie screen.
The open space and community plaza is separated from the sidewalk by curved walls that can used by children with skateboards or scooters.
The design maintains a grassy slope already on the property.
"The slope was sacred to the neighborhood," Beaudoin said. "Everybody fell in love with it as a sledding hill."
There is structured play equipment near the southeast corner.
A play channel runs along the southeast corner and the eastern edge of the park. It is envisioned as an informal trail with bridges, boulders and logs for unstructured play.
Beaudoin said they could direct surface drainage into that area to make it wet, muddy and dirty.
"This isn't going to be a clean, sterile kind of area," he said. "It's for a different kind of play."
At the end of the play channel is a council ring for meetings and a possible fire pit.
In the only large departure from the neighborhood's design input, Site Workshop and the Parks Department is recommending leaving the current sidewalk in place instead of tearing it out to build a curving sidewalk.
Beaudoin said a curved sidewalk was heavily desired by neighbors, but the Seattle Department of Transportation isn't excited about tearing out a relatively nice sidewalk. Plus, using the current sidewalk would save a lot of money and be more in line with the sustainable nature of the park, he said.
Bioswales or rain gardens would still be added to the current sidewalk without sacrificing parking, Beaudoin said.
Many meeting attendees complimented the design and said they were impressed by the way Site Workshop crafted their ideas into a cohesive design.
But, there was disagreement over the best use of space in the park with some neighbors arguing that a P-Patch privatizes a portion of the public park.
Each plot of a P-Patch is owned by a local family for their personal gardening. They have control of it for as long as they make use of it.
One attendee said there are already enough gardens attached to homes in the neighborhood. Another said there is a waiting list of 60 people in Ballard for P-Patch plots.
Beaudoin said people want to use P-Patches for the community experience it offers compared to gardening alone in a backyard.
He said Site Workshop wants the P-Patch to be an open space the public can walk through or sit on benches and relax in.
"It is our intention that this be a public space," he said.
A vocal group of meeting attendees called for the addition of swing sets to the park at the expense of the P-Patch or one of the other features.
Beaudoin said the problem with swing sets is the amount of space they take up. An 8-foot-high swing set requires a 16-foot buffer in front of and behind it. Plus, all play equipment needs to be set back 30 feet from the edge of the park.
A set of four swings would basically require them to do away with the entirety of the P-Patch or the open space.
The design includes an arch swing, which requires less space and can be used by multiple children at a time. Beaudoin said they may be able to fit two into the space.
One meeting attendee said a desire to please everyone is detrimental to the space. The nearby Whittier Elementary playground has nothing but swings and children's play equipment, he said.
"The more we pave over everything and put up swings, the more we lose the magic of the space," he said.
Another attendee said people are trying to fit three acres of stuff on a third of an acre.
Beaudoin said the concept presented Jan. 28 is not truly final. It will evolve throughout the process based on what is possible in the space and what they can afford, he said.
"It's really not final," he said. "This is not what is going to end up in the ground. Your input is still valuable in this process."
But, he said the concept represents the big picture they will be moving forward with and taking to the Parks Design Commission for approval Feb. 18.
"I live close by," Beaudoin said. "I'm looking forward to this.
There will be a six to eight-week naming process for the park starting in the near future.
Comments on the park design can be sent to Parks' Kellee Jones at kellee.jones@seattle.gov. Click the photo with this article to see the final concept for the park.
We encourage our readers to comment. No registration is required. We ask that you keep your comments free of profanity and keep them civil. They are moderated and objectionable comments will be removed.

Comments
Community Interest or Self Interest?
I attended this meeting and think the article accurately summarizes the issues discussed. I did not attend the first two meetings, so this was my first one. I have to say I was a little surprised at the slightly antagonistic tone between the two camps: pro-P-patchers and pro-swings (but maybe this was built up in the first two meetings). I felt like some of the comments on the P-patch side, such as the wait list for P-patches and the desire to garden with others, were arguments to support what the P-patchers want for themselves personally. There were some statements about how the P-patch benefitted the community but quite honestly I did not find them very compelling. Although not stated explicitly, I think the proponents of the swing set and climbing structure just want the hundreds of children in this neighborhood to have an adequate place to play and connect with nature. As a community we are all responsible for raising strong and healthy kids. Salmon Bay is the closest park to us but it's not all that close. The Whittier playground is great but it's basically a big blacktop. But both sides have to ask themselves whose interests are they trying to address - their own or the community's? If the discussion at the meeting had been focused more at the community level, it may have been a little more constructive.
Swings
A comment on the article would be that a little follow up would result in a more robust article. I did not attend the but one person was quoted by the reporter as saying the following:
"The nearby Whittier Elementary playground has nothing but swings and children's play equipment," he said.
There are no swings at the Whittier Elementary playground. I suspect the reason is that the demand would be enormous resulting in long lines - not desirable at recess at an elementary school. The swings at Salmon Bay Park make it a wonderful place for kids of all ages. It is a long distance to the nearest park from this region of the Ballard/Whittier Heights. Finding a way to add swings would be a large improvement. Some space for a P-patches would be nice but it is more of an adult feature. We really more kid space in this city!
Kids needs open areas and play structures
Kids in this neighborhood need as much open space and play structures as we can give them. We need to keep the play structure in place, provide more open, spacious grass areas in this 9th Ave Park and make the P-Patch or Community Garden smaller. There is only so much room. P-Patchers can find other plots of "privatized land" to use or use the land they already own, kids can't find more open spaces in the Ballard area. Keep it open for the kids!
Yes to swings
In terms of highest and best use (greatest good for the greatest number of people) I have a hard time believing that a group of 20 p-patch plots, whose use is limited to those who have reserved the space, will bring as much communal joy and happiness as a swingset.